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    It is not the case that IIT implies a form of panpsychism.

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    • 1.A non-zero φ value measures integrated information, a mathematical property, which need not entail phenomenal experience without a bridging principle.
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    • 2.IIT's axioms (existence, intrinsicality, information, integration, exclusion) are stipulated from human conscious experience and cannot be extrapolated to arbitrary physical systems without circularity.
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    • 3.Ned Block's distinction between access and phenomenal consciousness demonstrates that information-processing metrics systematically underdetermine the presence of subjective 'what it is like' states.
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    • 1.Scott Aaronson has shown that IIT assigns arbitrarily high φ values to expander graphs and certain logic gate arrays, systems whose 'consciousness' would be deeply counterintuitive even to panpsychists.
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    • 2.If a theoretical framework entails results that conflict with the considered judgments of its own proponents, this constitutes evidence against the framework's adequacy rather than evidence for revising intuitions about consciousness.
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    • 1.According to IIT, any system with a non-zero φ value possesses some degree of consciousness.
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    • 2.Simple systems such as photodiodes can have non-zero φ values when not part of a larger complex.
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