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    It would be unreasonable for God to permit sexual acts on... — Carmelics
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    It would be unreasonable for God to permit sexual acts only in a manner in which they cannot actually be performed

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    • 1.Human beings are so constructed that sexual intercourse necessarily involves pleasure
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    • 2.Requiring that sexual acts be performed without pleasure is requiring something that cannot be done
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    • 3.A rational God would not permit an act only under conditions that make the act impossible to perform
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    • 1.Augustine argues that prelapsarian sexuality was governed by rational will without involuntary pleasure, establishing a theological precedent for pleasure-free intercourse.
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    • 2.If unfallen humanity could exercise complete rational control over sexual acts, then pleasure-free intercourse represents a coherent divine ideal rather than an impossible demand.
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    • 3.God's permissions may be calibrated to humanity's original nature rather than its fallen, pleasure-bound condition.
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    • 1.Aquinas distinguishes between what is physically impossible and what is morally ordered: a divine command can redirect an act toward proper ends without requiring the elimination of all accompanying sensation.
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    • 2.The claim conflates the impossibility of performing an act without pleasure with the possibility of performing it without consenting to pleasure as one's governing intention.
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    We are so constructed that the feeling of pleasure is inevitable in certain situations: sexual intercourse, eating delicious food, and the like. If sexual pleasure in marriage is not sinful, then the pleasure itself, inside or outside of marriage, is not sinful; if it is sinful, then marriage cannot sanctify it—and if the conclusion were drawn that such acts should be performed wholly without pleasure, then Abelard declares they cannot be done at all, and it was unreasonable (of God) to permit t
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    Requiring that sexual acts be performed without pleasure is requiring something ...
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