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    One representation cannot completely crowd out a second representation from consciousness.

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    • 1.The remainder of a representation b (denoted [R_b]) can never equal zero.
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    • 2.A representation is only fully inhibited when it falls below the limen, which requires sufficient opposing force.
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    • 1.Hume's bundle theory holds that representations are discrete, transient perceptions with no guarantee of persistence once crowded from the attentional field.
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    • 2.If a representation is a momentary impression lacking enduring substance, it can cease entirely rather than subsisting below a limen as Herbart requires.
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    • 3.Herbart's claim presupposes a quasi-substantial continuity of mental content that empiricist psychology explicitly rejects as metaphysical smuggling.
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    • 1.Empirical cases of total amnesia and anesthesia demonstrate that specific representations can become entirely inaccessible, with zero phenomenal remainder.
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    • 2.If a representation leaves no functional or phenomenal trace whatsoever, Herbart's algebraic remainder [R_b] > 0 is an unfalsifiable theoretical posit, not an empirical claim.
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    To sum up: One representation cannot so crowd out a second, since the remainder of \(b\), (i.e., \([R_b]\)), can never \(= 0\). On the other hand, two representations suffice to crowd out a third completely out of consciousness, making it incapable of affecting the state of mind (Gemüthszustand); and this is all the more the case for further representations with a weaker vivacity than c (SW V: 292). The limen is determined as a limit (“Gränze”) below which a representation is fully inhibited, bu
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