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    Challenges→Manipulation arguments succeed even when the manipulated agent satisfies historical compatibilist conditions for free agency

    Satisfying historical compatibilist conditions does not eliminate ultimate causal dependence on external factors

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    Defenders of Manipulation arguments claim, however, that the argument works even if these kinds of cases are set aside. They say that the intuitive force of the argument depends only on the fact that deterministically caused actions are ultimately caused, as are Victim’s, by factors and forces outside the agent’s control. They say that the argument succeeds even in cases where Producer designs a Victim with unimpaired capacities and a normal psychology, perhaps the kind we’d like our children to

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