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    The divine nature is not a fourth Person of the Trinity — Carmelics
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    The divine nature is not a fourth Person of the Trinity

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    • 1.Each of the three Persons is a form-(quasi-)matter compound
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    • 2.The divine nature functions only as the quasi-matter component, not as a form-(quasi-)matter compound itself
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    • 3.Being a divine Person requires being a form-(quasi-)matter compound, which the divine nature is not
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    • 1.In classical theism (Aquinas, ST Ia q.3), divine simplicity entails that God's nature just is God, making nature-person distinctions ontologically suspect.
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    • 2.If divine simplicity holds, the divine nature cannot be a mere quasi-matter component subordinate to Persons, since God admits no real internal composition.
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    • 3.A theology that treats the divine nature as ontologically subordinate to Persons implicitly abandons divine simplicity, which historically grounds Trinitarian orthodoxy.
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    • 1.Gregory of Nyssa's social Trinitarian framework treats the divine nature as the common universal genuinely instantiated by three distinct hypostases, analogous to a shared human nature.
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    • 2.If the divine nature is a genuine universal shared by three Persons, it possesses ontological standing comparable to the Persons and cannot be reduced to a merely functional quasi-matter role.
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    • 3.The form-matter hylomorphic model imported from Aristotelian metaphysics is not a neutral framework but actively distorts Cappadocian distinctions between ousia and hypostasis.
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    Similarly, the Persons of the Trinity are so many selves constituted by the same stuff (or something analogous to a stuff). These selves, like the lump and statue, are numerically the same without being identical, but they don’t stand in a relation of accidental sameness, as they could not fail to be related in this way. Father, Son, and Spirit are three quasi form-matter compounds. The forms are properties like “being the Father, being the Son, and being the Spirit; or perhaps being Unbegotten,
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