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    The hypothesis of a timeless and harmonious Reality provi... — Carmelics
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    The hypothesis of a timeless and harmonious Reality provides no consolation for present pains and cannot serve as a basis for practical or moral comfort.

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    • 1.Bradley's Absolute, as a timeless whole, cannot redeem particular finite suffering without collapsing the distinction between Appearance and Reality.
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    • 2.If evil is 'absorbed' into a higher harmony, the particularity of suffering is annihilated rather than consoled, making the remedy indistinguishable from annihilation.
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    • 3.Genuine consolation requires the preservation of the suffering subject's identity, which a monistic dissolution into timeless Reality structurally cannot provide.
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    • 1.William James argued in 'A Pluralistic Universe' that block-universe absolutism renders moral striving meaningless because outcomes are already eternally fixed.
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    • 2.A timeless Reality in which all discord is already harmonized eliminates the normative gap between present evil and future good that makes moral effort intelligible.
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    • 3.Without that normative gap, the claim that present suffering is merely apparent provides no action-guiding content and therefore fails the pragmatic criterion of meaningful belief.
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    • 1.Consolation requires that one can experience the comforting reality.
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    • 2.Experience is necessarily temporal; a timeless Reality is therefore one that humans cannot experience.
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    • 3.The world of daily life remains wholly unaffected by the alleged timeless Reality and proceeds as if that Reality did not exist.
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    At first Russell was an adherent of McTaggart. This afforded him a neat solution to Sidgwick’s problem. The happy day when the harmony becomes explicit can be promoted or retarded by human action. If I benefit myself at your expense not only am I doing down a self with whom I am, in Reality, intimately linked—I am putting off the day when the harmony that Really Is becomes apparent. And since this harmony will be supremely pleasurable I am harming myself into the bargain. Hence morality and self
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    What seems to be evil in the world of Appearance is, for all practical purposes,...
    William James argued in 'A Pluralistic Universe' that block-universe absolutism ...
    Without that normative gap, the claim that present suffering is merely apparent ...
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