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    Thinking and being are not fundamentally opposed but are ultimately the same.

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    • 1.To conceive of thinking and being as fundamentally opposed leads to inconsistencies, contradictions, antinomies, and other philosophical deficiencies.
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    • 2.A viable idealistic system must overcome these deficiencies by eliminating the underlying fundamental opposition between thinking and being.
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    • 1.Being exhibits properties—contingency, resistance, opacity—that are irreducible to and independent of any cognitive or conceptual structure.
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    • 2.Heidegger's analysis of 'thrownness' shows that Dasein always finds itself already in a world it did not think into existence.
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    • 3.If being were ultimately identical to thinking, the brute facticity of existence would be explicable through reason alone, which it demonstrably is not.
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    • 1.Frege's distinction between sense and reference demonstrates that thought can fail to determine a unique referent, showing thought and being come apart systematically.
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    • 2.Russell's discovery of the paradox of classes reveals that unrestricted identification of logical thought with ontological structure generates formal contradictions.
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    • 3.A system that eliminates the opposition between thinking and being to avoid antinomies merely relocates the contradictions into the structure of ideality itself, as Schelling's late critique of Hegel demonstrates.
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    Thus, when Hegel in the second edition of his Science of Logic (1831) nevertheless claims that in the end “[e]very philosophy is essentially idealism or at least has it as its principle” (GW 21, 142), he must mean by idealism something other than traditional idealism and certainly something other than Kant’s indeterminate ontological realism. Rather, he must mean by idealism a philosophical outlook that is immune against the charge of grounding a philosophical system in a conception of reality t
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