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    All attempts to save meaningful contingency governed by h... — Carmelics
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    All attempts to save meaningful contingency governed by human free will are doomed to failure

    Free Will & Foreknowledge
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    • 1.God's eternal omniscience entails that every future human act is timelessly determined within the divine intellect before any creaturely deliberation occurs.
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    • 2.Gregory of Rimini demonstrated that Ockham's divided-sense distinction merely relocates necessity rather than eliminating it, since the power to do otherwise remains counterfactually inert under eternal foreknowledge.
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    • 3.A freedom that is never actually exercised contrary to what God eternally foreknows is nominally free but functionally indistinguishable from determinism.
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    • 1.Molina's middle knowledge presupposes that counterfactuals of creaturely freedom have determinate truth values independent of God's will, yet no coherent non-circular grounding for such truths has been identified.
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    • 2.Without a credible grounding for these counterfactuals, the apparatus of middle knowledge collapses into either Calvinist hard determinism or an unconstrained libertarianism incompatible with God's providential sovereignty.
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    • 1.God's foreknowledge entails the necessity of future events
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    • 2.No logical distinction (such as composite/divided sense or conditional/absolute necessity) successfully rescues genuine human freedom from divine determinism
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    Gregory’s position relies on interesting uses of common logical devices and distinctions developed at Paris and Oxford over the preceding century, such as the distinction between the composite and divided senses of propositions, and that between conditional and absolute necessity. The purpose of these distinctions was to offer a way of explaining the contingency of events, but in doing so they assumed the ultimate contingency of everything except God. However, far from being an affirmation of th
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