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    It is not the case that Perceptual appearances must be entirely mental and internal, rather than relational

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    • 1.Perceptual appearances can be relational without requiring the perceived object to instantiate the apparent property intrinsically.
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    • 2.The sun's appearing small is a real relation between the sun, the perceiver, and the viewing conditions—not a purely internal mental state.
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    • 3.J.J. Gibson's ecological optics demonstrates that relational properties like 'subtended visual angle' are genuinely present in the optic array and causally structure perception.
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    • 1.The dream argument proves only that internally-caused experiences are possible, not that all perceptual appearances lack relational constituents.
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    • 2.Disjunctivists like McDowell and Hinton argue that veridical perception and dreams are fundamentally different kinds of states sharing only a subjective character, leaving relational accounts of genuine perception intact.
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    • 1.Science teaches us that things are not in reality the way they appear to the senses
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    • 2.The sun perceptually appears as a small disk rather than the large sphere that it actually is
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    • 3.The transmission-of-forms theory cannot account for this error because the sun does not have the form of a small disk
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