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    The Yugoslavian and Rwandan disasters were not initially ... — Carmelics
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    The Yugoslavian and Rwandan disasters were not initially Prisoner's Dilemmas; most people on either side did not begin by preferring the destruction of the other group to mutual cooperation.

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    • 1.In neither the Yugoslav nor the Rwandan situation did most people begin by preferring destruction of the other group over mutual cooperation.
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    • 2.The PD-like structure was dynamically created through coordination logic and political manipulation, not pre-existing.
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    • 1.Structural conditions like ethnic outbidding and security dilemmas generate incentive-compatible destruction preferences before overt violence begins.
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    • 2.Posen's 1993 analysis shows that post-imperial power vacuums create genuine PD structures through rational security calculations, not merely elite manipulation.
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    • 3.If the incentive structure produces defection-dominant strategies, the subjective initial preferences of individuals are analytically irrelevant to the PD classification.
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    • 1.Olson's collective action theory entails that latent group preferences are systematically suppressed by coordination costs, making stated preferences unreliable baselines.
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    • 2.A preference for cooperation that cannot survive minimal defection signals from elites was never a robust cooperative preference in the game-theoretic sense.
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    • 3.Therefore, the claim that populations 'preferred mutual cooperation' conflates expressed preferences under safety with revealed preferences under strategic uncertainty.
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    Prisoner's Dilemma(Popular discussion context)
    A scenario in which two players are separated so they cannot communicate, and each must decide whether to confess or refuse, facing incentives that lead to suboptimal collective outcomes.
    Rwanda(historical reference)
    A country in Central Africa where, in 1994, one ethnic group (the Hutu) carried out a genocide against another group (the Tutsi), killing roughly 800,000 people in about 100 days.
    Yugoslavia(historical reference)
    A country in southeastern Europe that broke apart in the 1990s, leading to several brutal wars between different ethnic and religious groups.

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    According to Hardin, neither the Yugoslavian nor the Rwandan disasters were PDs to begin with. That is, in neither situation, on either side, did most people begin by preferring the destruction of the other to mutual cooperation. However, the deadly logic of coordination, deliberately abetted by self-serving politicians, dynamically created PDs. Some individual Serbs (Hutus) were encouraged to perceive their individual interests as best served through identification with Serbian (Hutu) group-int
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