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    An interpretive theory that appeals to the abstract intentions of constitutional authors over their concrete historical understandings may not qualify as genuine originalism and may instead collapse into living constitutionalism.

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    • 1.Genuine originalism is typically understood to be constrained by the original concrete understandings of constitutional provisions.
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    • 2.Appealing to abstract intentions over concrete historical understandings allows contemporary moral judgments to determine the extension of constitutional provisions.
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    • 3.A theory that allows contemporary moral judgments to determine constitutional meaning is functionally equivalent to living constitutionalism.
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    Key Terms

    Abstract intentions(interpretation theory)
    The general, broad-level goals or purposes someone had in mind, rather than their specific applications in particular situations.
    Collapse into(philosophical argument structure)
    A philosophical phrase meaning that one theory or position gradually transforms or reduces into another, often implying a loss of its distinct identity.
    Concrete historical understandings(constitutional interpretation)
    What people actually meant and understood about specific issues at the exact time and place something was written, based on real historical context.
    Constitutional authors(American history and constitutional law)
    The people who wrote and created the U.S. Constitution, mainly the Founding Fathers who drafted it in 1787.
    living constitutionalism(Presented as the interpretive position that abstract-intention originalism risks collapsing into.)
    A theory of constitutional interpretation under which the meaning or application of constitutional provisions evolves over time in light of contemporary moral and empirical judgments, rather than being fixed by original understanding.
    originalism(The passage distinguishes between faint-hearted or abstract-intention originalism and more conventional originalism anchored to concrete historical understandings.)
    A family of theories of constitutional interpretation that ground constitutional meaning in the intentions, understanding, or public meaning of the document's authors at the time of enactment.

    Notable Defenders

    Antonin ScaliacontemporaryScalia 1997; Scalia 1989
    Joseph RazcontemporaryRaz 1996, 176–91
    Keith WhittingtoncontemporaryWhittington 1999b
    Lawrence SolumcontemporarySolum 2008
    Randy BarnettcontemporaryBarnett 2004
    Robert BorkcontemporaryBork 1990
    A. V. DiceymodernDicey's account of the British constitutional system and constitutional conventions
    Alexis de TocquevillemodernOriginator of the phrase 'tyranny of the majority,' followed by Mill
    Benjamin HoadlymodernSermon before the English King, 1717, quoted in Gray 1986, p.12
    Bishop Hoadlymodern
    John MarshallmodernMarbury v Madison
    John Stuart MillmodernReferenced for the phrase 'tyranny of the majority'
    MontesquieumodernReferenced as the proponent of division of government powers
    Montesquieumodern
    Thomas Hobbesmodern

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    But perhaps things are not quite this simple. Suppose we agreed that the goal of the Eighth Amendment’s authors was to ban cruel and unusual punishments, and that they, along with virtually every other American of the day, believed that hanging did not fall within the extension of that phrase. In other words, what we might call their concrete understanding of the abstract notion ‘cruel and unusual punishment’, was such as to permit the use of hanging. If so, and if a contemporary interpreter bel
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